Comments for Nigel Bakker's SOA Soapbox http://bakker.co.za Some rants and other stuff, mostly around Service Oriented Architecture Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:36:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 Comment on Do I need an ESB to do SOA? by Nigel Bakker http://bakker.co.za/?p=38&cpage=1#comment-104 Nigel Bakker Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:36:36 +0000 http://bakker.co.za/?p=38#comment-104 If by 'Process Server' you mean, some form of process orchestration engine E.g. BPEL Orchestration, then I would say that they are complementary. Most ESBs today include some form of process orchestration engine. If you want to do full fledged BPM though, you may need to invest in a BPM Orchestration Engine and use this with your ESB. The ESB is typically used to expose the business services (often wrapping legacy systems) leveraged by a business process. The BPM Orchestration Engine provides a means to implement a business process that leverage these services. We are seeing overlap in these product spaces in that BPM procducts often include a basic integration engine. I like to think of ESB and BPM as 2 sides of the same coin. If by ‘Process Server’ you mean, some form of process orchestration engine E.g. BPEL Orchestration, then I would say that they are complementary. Most ESBs today include some form of process orchestration engine. If you want to do full fledged BPM though, you may need to invest in a BPM Orchestration Engine and use this with your ESB. The ESB is typically used to expose the business services (often wrapping legacy systems) leveraged by a business process. The BPM Orchestration Engine provides a means to implement a business process that leverage these services. We are seeing overlap in these product spaces in that BPM procducts often include a basic integration engine. I like to think of ESB and BPM as 2 sides of the same coin.

]]> Comment on Do I need an ESB to do SOA? by Kalpana Vadarevu http://bakker.co.za/?p=38&cpage=1#comment-103 Kalpana Vadarevu Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:10:59 +0000 http://bakker.co.za/?p=38#comment-103 What is the relationship between an ESB and a Process Server? What is the relationship between an ESB and a Process Server?

]]> Comment on Do I need an ESB to do SOA? by Nigel Bakker http://bakker.co.za/?p=38&cpage=1#comment-100 Nigel Bakker Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:45:53 +0000 http://bakker.co.za/?p=38#comment-100 Personally, I don't believe you need one. But one of the better ways of driving out services that play nicely across the enterprise seems to be the BPM centric (process centric) approach. These tend to work better with a "process server", or at least some form of process orchestration. Personally, I don’t believe you need one. But one of the better ways of driving out services that play nicely across the enterprise seems to be the BPM centric (process centric) approach. These tend to work better with a “process server”, or at least some form of process orchestration.

]]> Comment on Do I need an ESB to do SOA? by Kalpana Vadarevu http://bakker.co.za/?p=38&cpage=1#comment-99 Kalpana Vadarevu Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:57:03 +0000 http://bakker.co.za/?p=38#comment-99 A similar question - Do I need a process server to implement SOA? A similar question – Do I need a process server to implement SOA?

]]> Comment on Perspectives – SOA vs SOAD by dave http://bakker.co.za/?p=43&cpage=1#comment-96 dave Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:30:25 +0000 http://bakker.co.za/?p=43#comment-96 Very Nice Blog, Good work! <a href="http://www.soaguru.com" rel="nofollow">SOA Governance</a> Very Nice Blog, Good work!

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